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  • #1735

    Bruce Hoag
    Participant

    There’s an old saying: The money is in the list.

    So what I’d like to know is what are the three most effective methods that you used to build your list without buying traffic?

    Do you use Warrior Plus mostly or are there other sources?

    What other avenues did you try before you decided to use the WF?

    What I’m trying to get at is how you identify and evaluate these different platforms so the rest of us can see how you think.

    Bruce Hoag PhD
    The Internet Marketing Psychologist
    The Mindful Writer - for deep and persuasive copy

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  • #1737

    Sean Mize
    Keymaster

    I did one thing primarily at first to build my first list, maybe 100,000 subscribers generated this way, and that’s I wrote articles for ezinearticles and really pushed their system, figured out what it took to get to the top of their recommended lists, get to the top of their top authors list, and really pushed to get views . . .and it all paid off to the tune of close to about 100,000 subscribers . . . .

    Then I shifted to using the Warrior Forum to generate leads . . .and generated maybe 50,000 buyer leads there . . . .same concept, I studied the format, determined what it took to get them to send me the most traffic, and did it.

    Then when warrior forum and warrior plus split, since I had already built relationships and the bulk of the leads were coming in from the warrior plus side, I simply continued to use warrior plus to drive those new leads.

    Bruce, to answer your question about where most of my leads come from now, there are 2 answers:

    Where do the total volume come from?

    Or where do the profitable ones come from?

    And I’m scared to answer this because I am talking about things I used to do, and I find when I do that, people try to copy what I used to do, and it doesn’t work for them, and somehow they think it should . . . I don’t do the things I used to do because they don’t work as well now, so I do different things now.

    But I’ll answer cause you asked.

    Probably most of my profitable leads are warriorplus . . I get a lot of leads from buyer download pages, etc – but they haven’t been productive so far.

    Also get leads from my old articles, dipping into quora lately.

    I get leads from referrals and interviews.

    Regarding what I tried before ezinearticles . . .mostly fake stuff (but I didn’t know it at the time) – I bought a lot of guarantee traffic, safe list traffic, safe emails, etc – just junk, junk, junk traffic.

    And about 80 more article directories until I did the tests that ruled them all out and I went all-in with ezinearticles.com.

    I did an $8000 google PPC test one time and about broke even in the long term – like months and months

    and learned that cold traffic doesn’t convert as well as warm traffic (and since the average article marketing lead has read about 7 articles before opting in to my list, they are quite warm -and then after a few days on my list they are either hot or quit!~!!!

    Bought tons of solo ads in the past, the only way that ever worked for me was sending that traffic directly to a wso, make it break even there, and get a buyer out of it instead of a subscribers.

    Solo ad subscribers tend to be hard on an email server, because of 2 things:

    1) because of their nature and why they got on my list . . . they are also on 100 other lists – so – they get used to unsubbing

    2) and they are also on 100 lists so their open rate is really low

    but once the solo ad market got more advanced, it’s hard to get anyone to mail a wso offer anymore, so I stopped doing that.

    And way before that, Matt Garrett and I developed the ad swap model that evolved into the big solo ad market in the im niche . . and we did fairly well with that . . .

    but every before that – and this I think is how I met Matt – I would write people with similar lists to mine and say, Hey, I think we have similar prospects on our lists, will you mail your list for me if I mail my list for you?

    and many said yes, huge starter list for me.

    But that is much, much harder these days since there has been so much commercialization of solo ads and adswaps since then (this is one case of starting something but once it took off, it was no good to me anymore)

    Sorry this isn’t chronological, but I think you can surmise the order . . .

    and there may be a few more sources I’m forgetting.

    But a fair warning to anyone reading this: just because something works for me doesn’t mean it will work for you.

    And just because something doesn’t work for me doesn’t mean it won’t work for you.

    YOU have to do the hard work and find out where YOUR demographic and YOUR bleeding neck prospects are hanging out, and intercept them, just like I’ve done.

    Sean

    Do you want to learn how to start a coaching program that stabilizes your income and changes lives? If so, visit http://www.AnyoneCanCoach.com

    Sean

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  • #1738

    Bruce Hoag
    Participant

    And for those of you who don’t understand the “bleeding neck” metaphor, it’s something that John Paul Mendocha talks about with Perry Marshall.

    If you’ve ever been to the ER, then you’ve probably noticed that the doctor didn’t see you in the order that you arrived.

    That’s because they use a system called a triage.

    A triage – the “tri” makes me think that it’s three categories – is a means for identifying who needs to see a doctor right now, who can wait for a little while without dying, and who is annoyed because their pizza was delivered cold.

    If you’re neck is bleeding, it probably means that your carotid artery needs some attention.

    Those are the people you want to help.

    They’re the ones who are desperate. 😉

    Bruce Hoag PhD
    The Internet Marketing Psychologist
    The Mindful Writer - for deep and persuasive copy

  • #1753

    Malik Ahmad
    Participant

    Free Methods: I use the warrior forum/product launches, Instagram, YouTube, document sharing sites, and I still do seo.

    Out of the above Methods I prefer product launches (only buyers on your list).

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  • #1778

    Tina Fletcher
    Participant

    I notice it’s getting harder out there now, but I have found if you are buying solo ads to find people that a niche specific not all-rounders ie advertise to 2-3 niches. You need to make your free product really specific to your target so even if you get lower optins you get people looking for the issue you can help with, this means that they will be looking for your help as you have pre qualified them.

    Here are some place that I have purchased solo ads from
    Facebook:
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/salestestimonials/
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/SoloAdsTestimonials/

    Websites:
    https://www.clickonomy.com/
    https://udimi.com/ (used but didn’t have great results but others have)

    Hope this helps 🙂

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    • #1876

      Sean Mize
      Keymaster

      Tina, I’ve had similar results with Udimi 🙂

      how do the results you’ve received from the other solo sellers compare to your results at udimi?

      in short, were they productive and profitable?

      Thanks

      Sean

      Do you want to learn how to start a coaching program that stabilizes your income and changes lives? If so, visit http://www.AnyoneCanCoach.com

      Sean

  • #1842

    Bruce Hoag
    Participant

    Great info, Tina.

    How did you find these lists?

    It doesn’t seem to me to be the sort of thing that people would advertise. LOL

    Bruce Hoag PhD
    The Internet Marketing Psychologist
    The Mindful Writer - for deep and persuasive copy

  • #1845

    Tina Fletcher
    Participant

    Hi Bruce, through research and recommendation mainly. I have some contact that are doing very well in the IM industry and I tend to pick their brains. Even though I am not doing the same work as them I still keep learning about it, as many of the things that happen in the IM industry are starting to trickle down into other niches and the one that get that are doing very well.

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  • #1860

    Bruce Hoag
    Participant

    You’re a clever girl, Tina. 😉

    Bruce Hoag PhD
    The Internet Marketing Psychologist
    The Mindful Writer - for deep and persuasive copy

  • #1878

    Malik Ahmad
    Participant

    I mostly use product launches to build my list (buyers/action takers).

    I use bing ads, Instagram, Facebook, YouTube, and google to drive traffic to my sales pages.

    I used to drive traffic to my squeeze pages but I got very low response rates from the free give aways.

    I will try the squeeze page method again in this forum.

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  • #1882

    Sean Mize
    Keymaster

    Malik

    what’s your main site?

    how many subscribers do you have?

    Sean

    Do you want to learn how to start a coaching program that stabilizes your income and changes lives? If so, visit http://www.AnyoneCanCoach.com

    Sean

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